Topic: Can the new boys on the block cause an upset?

Does anyone think that the two surprise packets of the mens draw, Raonic and Dolgopolov can go any further in this years AO, Raonic has a huge serve and will get lots of free points but Ferrer is a rabbit with big wheels and will fight like a bull too.
Dolgopolov might have just played his final I think by beating Tsonga in five and Soderling has snuck through the draw largely unnoticed by most people, he might just be the dark horse this year who knows??

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My picks are for Raonic to advance and Dolgopolov to lose. Raonic's upset of Youzhny impressed me more than Dolgopolov's of Tsonga, and I've always thought Ferrer is a relatively week top 8 seed. As for Soderling, I feel he has a really good chance of winning the whole tournament, so I think he'll deal with Dolgopolov in straights.

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I think you will be correct about Dolgopolov Pount but not so sure about Raonic, Ferrer is playing really well and he was impressive winning in Auckland, it may take him a while to read Raonic's serve but his court coverage is very good and he will make Raonic try and get into long rallies which will ultimately suit Ferrer, my tip is Ferrer to win in four sets smile

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I think Raonic has a decent chance of winning.......but it's probably gonna be Ferrer. As for Dolgopolov, I'm SO mad at him for being a surprise upsetter THIS tourney! He was my unseeded pick at the US Open after I saw his pretty impressive match against Tsonga at Wimbledon, which was a five setter. But he had to lose in the 1st round! If only I'd picked him again sad
But when it comes to the match itself, I think he's gonna get creamed.

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Soderling choked pretty hard today. I'll give Dolgopolov credit because he didn't make a lot of errors, but Soderling was up a set and a break and then suddenly his level of play hits rock bottom. I was really looking forward to a Soderling-Murray showdown as well.

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That match was SO shocking...it propelled Dolgopolov to new heights. I look forward to seeing how he performs in the future.

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I think it's important to note that the wind was pretty hard and gusty for the match.  Soderling has problems in the wind with his serve (because his ball toss is so very high) and his forehand (because it's such a very long stroke).  What Aiur took for choking I took as Soderling's normal terrible play in the wind.  He is BY FAR the worst wind player among the top players.  In fact, he had so much trouble with the wind that before he hit the big time at RG '09, he was known as an indoor specialist.  I don't think Robin choked at all, and I don't think the win means anything too special for Dolgopolov's future.

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How then do you explain the sets Soderling won? 6-1 is hardly a score one would win by if they were battling gusts of wind...

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The particular mechanics of Soderlings serve do not bode will for gusty conditions. It is by no means an excuse, but as a tennis player I understand that over the course of a match the wind can eat away at your form. Dolgopolov has some great talent, and all credit should go to him because he is playing very good tennis.

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Soderling played progressively worse throughout the match as the wind took apart his game.

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I still think Dolgopolov has grown immeasurably since that 5-setter against Tsonga at Wimbledon last year; beating Tsonga and Soderling back to back, and then giving Murray enough trouble to force & win a tiebreaker and lose one of his sets 5-7 to the same..........these are no mean feats.

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No, they're not mean feats.  Any time an unseeded player makes a run to the quarters of a Slam, they're doing something right.  When you beat two top players back to back to get there, it's even better.  Clearly Alex is a player on the rise. 

But I'll wager Robin Soderling is dying to get another shot at him -- and when he does, we'll see what happens, but I'm going to like Soderling in straight sets in that one, myself.

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I'd agree with you, for almost any surface at any location...but perhaps Dolgopolov will be able one day to beat the top 10 consistently. I look forward to seeing the up-and-comers like him, Raonic, and Tomic replacing the guys who are getting old, like Fed in a couple years.

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I'm not at all sure that any of those three will replace anyone at the top anytime soon.  If one of them does, I like Raonic over Dolgopolov -- and most certainly not Tomic over anybody.

My guess is we don't know the names yet of those who will displace Wawrinka and Monfils.  At least I don't.  Maybe you do. 

So step up and tell us the next generation, folks, if your crystal ball doesn't have fuzz in it!

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Wawrinka I'll give you, but I sincerely believe that Monfils will never have the focus or the drive to become a top-10 player/grand slam winner...

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Given the fact that Monfils is #12 already, it seems pretty bizarre to me to say he won't make the top 10.  I'm fairly sure he'll do it this year.

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Monfils.....sigh, so much talent that man, will he make the top ten this year..... probably!
Will he ever win a Grand Slam..... probably not! But if I was to pick him winning one it would be his home event at Roland Garros, he would have to have some luck with the draw though i think but the crowd would certainly lift him.
I like the look of that young Grigor Dimitrov, he is only 19 and has only played 18 ATP events in the past 12 months and is at number 86 already, look for him to move up the rankings this year and push for higher honours in the next few years

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Nice call on Dimitrov.  He is impressive.

As for Monfils, consider the fact that he's French.  Name one French male player that has lived up to his potential other than Grosjean and Clement.  They're in love with God shots.  They refuse to play the odds.  They don't like training all that much.  They hate grinding matches out.  They're the anti-Spanish.  No wonder they win some big matches, but not many tournaments.

Monfils is for me the essence of that quintessential French unpredictability, even more than Gasquet -- God, did you see that! amazing! what's next? -- and it could be great or terrible, right?  Just wait, it will be both!  So it would take lightning striking at least thrice for him to actually win a major.  Highly unlikely.  But on his day he'll beat everybody.

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LOL..... yeah I know what you mean when it comes to the French Don!
Im from NZ of course and France has derailed the World Rugby Cup chances of our All Blacks on more than one occassion over the years, brillant one day and not even interested the next, its interesting that the French usually play well in the Davis Cup though, maybe Monfils needs Guy Forget sitting sideline in the majors to help him through.....haha.
Monfils has a touch of Yannick Noah about him and it would be nice to see him win one slam at some stage, are there many lightning storms in France in late May and early June??? smile

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Obviously, if Monfils wins a slam it will be less surprising than Noah's wonderful RG victory. 

It made Yannick such a legend in France that he became a big time rock star there and he still is.  Nice gig, that.  In some ways he reminds me of Rafter.  What a great guy!  His kid isn't half bad at basketball, either. 

Gael Monfils -- even with THE most classically wonderful French name ever -- will have to go a long way to catch up with Yannick Noah.

They share an uncommon athleticism.  And, of course, they do seem more like each other than either one does like anyone else, ever, for lots of reasons.  So there's also that....

Last edited by DonDenman (Feb. 9, 2011 7:06pm)

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Monfils is too arrogant, too unpredictable, and too inconsistent. to win a Slam...a far cry from Yannick Noah! And the way I see it, the only way he CAN become a top-ten player is if he gets a relatively easy draw at a Slam and DOESN'T choke it away like he did at the French last year against Fabio Fognini, for god's sake...that was an embarrassment.

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Monfils is #12 right now.  He doesn't have far to go to crack the top 10 again (he reached #9 in '09).  He only has to pass Youzhny and Melzer.  I certainly don't see how that's going to take a lucky draw at a major.     

Almost all players choke at one time or another, but I saw the Fognini match you referenced and Monfils definitely did not choke that match away.  Fognini played bravely and extremely well, and simply won it.  It was a tough loss for Monfils, to be sure, but in no way was it an embarassment.     

The truth is Monfils is already a better player than Noah ever was.  Of course, the game is a great deal more competitive now, and the field is FAR deeper than in Yannick's day.  That, together with the Rafa and Roger stranglehold on the Slams, is why it's really quite unlikely Le Monf will win a Slam. 

But if he did manage to pull it off, he might well become the same sort of cultural icon in France that Noah has been these many years.  If so, I hope Le Monf wears it as well as Yannick, but that would not be easy to do.

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Update, Gael Monfils is now out injured with a wrist injury guys, he has given Raonis a walkover into his first ATP final against either Del Po or Verdasco, the young Canadian is having a great start to 2011, Monfils is not going to make the top ten now if he is out for some 6 weeks or so.
Oh well the French still have Yannick to continue telling their grandchildren about huh.....haha.
Bring on the Masters events now, good to see Del Po clean up Hewiit, hopefully he stays injury free this year smile

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honestly, I feel like DelPo's career is over...he still hasn't bounced back after his injury, and really cannot play 100%.
and I stand by what I said on Dolgopolov; the guy recently made his first ATP final, which makes it clear to me that his quarterfinal run at the Aussie Open gave him a HUGE boost of confidence.
oh, and Raonic is on fire!!!

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Yes Raonic is on fire and with no points to defend he should continue his rise up the rankings, don't agree with you on Del Po though Adrian, he is working his way back nicely and strengthening his wrist as he goes, he is not pushing too hard at this stage, look to see him continue improving and be back to his best sometime this year.
At the elite level it will take some time for him to rebuild his full confidence but he is improving already, don't write him off just yet.
Dolgo....hmmm not sure yet on the dog, I think Raonic is a real comer, has possibly the biggest serve on tour now and his confidence will be sky high, has already beaten Verdasco twice and now almost Roddick too, top 20 by end of the year perhaps, who knows maybe higher??