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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I missed the edit button then found it on another post. 

I wouldn't say Nadal has had a completely free ride (I mean just as recently as this FO he had some scrutiny). But I think in comparison to Roger, he has had it pretty darn good. The difference between these two has been a product of many different things. Federer spent years straight at #1 and had to hold up to that expectation for a long time. I don't want to get into the argument about weaker competition, different technology, or anything, but the fact is that the experience of having that #1 label next to your name is hard no matter if the competition is there or not. That being said, Federer held the weight of the world's expectations on his shoulders for a long time and had to answer to the world when things didn't go well which is normal. However, the thing is with champions, the bar doesn't just fall when competition shows up on the door step so the media and fans still held the same expectations of multiple majors a year even when that was becoming near impossible. I think Federer has had a unique experience being at the top for so long and having to answer to so many people that it probably started to get very very hard for him to say the right things over and over again year in and year out. Not a total excuse for some of the things he has said, but I think I can see where he is coming from. Nadal has in my opinion not gone through an exactly similar circumstance as Federer did. Nadal has handled himself well, but I think we will all see soon enough that all greats have to eventually start getting asked tough questions like Federer has had to deal with for so long. Nadal's time to get truly grilled is coming. I think he is ready for it too. But until then, I will not give the same respects to him as I do Roger because EVERYONE in sports has to go through at least one very very tough patch. Doesn't matter what sport you follow. And it's these moments that define you.

In all honesty, these guys will go down as the greatest of this time. It is really not fair to judge head to heads and everything with these two because the numbers cannot speak near to the extent of the greatness these guys have shown. 

Hopes for good tennis and maybe a different winner for a change. My votes for the scotsman to get it done.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-21T01:22:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I disagree that the media grills Roger and gives Rafa a free ride.  It does not look that way to me at all.  The media treats both of them with the respect they deserve, most of the time anyway.  Actually, it looks to me as if they treat Roger like he's the pope or something.  

So I would say how it seems to someone probably depends on his perspective to a great extent.  And, hey, we've all posted things we regret.  It's why I like the Edit button.  

No doubt all of us are just hoping for some great tennis during the fortnight.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Don]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T23:21:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I will only say that I think Nadal gets to escape getting grilled for his sub-par performance losses because the facts are the fans know that something has to be wrong with the guy for things not to go his way (and generally there always tends to be an injury announced days afterward that confirms the fans belief). Federer gets grilled each and every time he loses a match. Completely grilled. I think this is slightly unfair. It bugs me to see that people truly believe Nadal is immortal to losing for a normal reason. The fact is Rafael Nadal's tennis game will never please me like it does others. It is boring to watch him play. Others disagree and I am fine with that. Can we please just not argue? I regretted the first post the second I hit the button.

All I want is to see good tennis.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T23:09:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[OK.  So let me get this wrong.  Most of Nadal's losses in recent years have come when he was physically less than 100%.  That is a simple fact.  It has been pointed out EVERY TIME it has happened by commentators, and Rafa has NEVER brought up injury after a match.

But the fact he was actually injured means he has "a fallback" -- in that he actually does have a legitimate excuse which he NEVER makes -- and you don't like that.

I guess if Rafa wants to please you, he'll have to win all the matches he plays hurt and only lose when he's fine.  Right?  In what world does that make sense?]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Don]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:58:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[And since last I recall you are the person who predicted a calendar slam from Nadal pre-season, I will choose to just let this go since we are going to be on very opposite ends of the spectrum as far as these players are concerned.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:49:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Hmmm... I never ever ever EVER said he blamed the losses on injury. I would never say that. I said that he usually has a fallback which is usually very true. He can go home at the end of the day and tell himself that if he had just been 100% he would have won. 

It isn't a lie. It is true. His injury timeouts do tend to shake momentum just enough for him. The results speak that that is also truth. 

I don't like players for their attitude off court. I like their tennis. I happen to enjoy Federer's tennis more than Nadal's. No resentment there.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:46:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Rafael Nadal has NEVER made an excuse after a loss.  He ALWAYS talks about how well his opponent played.  He has never blamed a loss on injury.  

Of course, the fact remains that he has IN FACT been injured to some degree before or during most of the matches he has lost for several years.  The reason for that is that he's practically impossible to beat when 100%.   

There is no one more genuine.  

You're entitled to dislike anyone you want.  Just be honest about the reasons you don't like the best player in the world.  You're a Federer guy who resents the fact that Nadal absolutely OWNS Federer.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Don]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:26:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[With the intro of Djokovic deep into the mix of things, I think both Nadal and Federer are now realizing that it really will come down to who plays their A game on a given day. It isn't about who has the best tennis game, it is about how 1 or 2 points per set are handled. This is probably the reason that Federer has lightened up a bit. When playing at those kinds of margins, there really is only one thing to say after a loss: He hit his shots on the big points and I got a bit unlucky where my game didn't show up the best. It becomes simple.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:12:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Nadal's humility is a little over the top. I almost question whether it is genuine. I truly believe that he is really at the mercy of his coaches/family and controlled pretty much on a day to day basis. As there are some things that Federer says that can be taken as arrogant, I also think there are things Nadal does that are equally frustrating. Random injury timeouts (notice he seems to come back and win after those) are just a bit fishy to me. I just don't like the fact that Nadal usually has a fall back to why he loses. Generally, it is injury.  That just does not sit well with me. It is easy, however, to see that Roger is honest. He says things the way the are. What else can you ask for from the man? If I had as many titles as him, I would always walk around with unbreakable swagger. The arrogance is well deserved in my opinion and makes it more fun to follow him rather than Nadal.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[the_lost_scot]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T22:07:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Nice call on the psych job theory.  I agree. 

 And Roger has become noticeably more gracious in recent months.

I like that.  A little graciousness.  A little mental trickery.  It's appealing for a guy who's slightly past his prime.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Don]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T09:14:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Roger is mellowing guy's, give the champ a break, he has now recognised Rafa as a true champion and has a great relationship with him off court also so he can't be all that smug, Rafa has earnt Fed's respect!
He is fast approaching 30, when he was in his prime maybe he never really thought anyone would ever get near his GS record and that was why he had/has that arrogance about him.
He is all class and lately he has been more gracious when getting beaten, he now has no issue with saying the other guy played well and deserved to win, sometimes he even says that he thought that he played well also.
If Fed is playing well and injury free and he get's beaten I believe he has no problem giving his victor compliments.
I think he is playing a few mind games with Djokovic though, did anyone read the comment "I think Djokovic has always been great, but nothing extraordinary yet".
Im only guessing but Roger could be trying to psych Nole out before the tourny has even started, does that mean he is worried about him or maybe too confident???]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tono]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-20T09:01:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[He loves winning... reminds me of Bjorn Borg]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[CrossCourt]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-19T21:36:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Was Federer a Sore Loser?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I don't think he gets that we ALL think he is amongst the greatest of all time. Giving praise never killed the cat. Nadal is respected for his humility yet is a great player. As Aiur said, it's just the ego. "The sun was too bright" "I was prepared to drop 2 sets..." (Yeah, right he was)]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[CrossCourt]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-19T21:35:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I've been reading this forum and it has COMPLETELY changed my views of Roger]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[CrossCourt]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-19T21:30:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I am not turned off in the slightest by people yelling to pump themselves up.  No problem with that here.  Nor do I have a problem with the sort of physical intimidation employed by Rafa Nadal.  If you can psych out your opponent and you don't, you aren't really trying to win.  

I must admit, however, that I always had a problem with Lleyton Hewitt because his way of doing it was, IMO, just too "in your face."  Sorry, mate.  I'm a Rafter guy.

But while we're bashing Roger it might be good to remember that Roger ranks right up there with my man Pat in being voted the best sport by the other players.  That means a lot.  So, yes, Roger's classy.  And, yes, Roger's a bit smug.  Get over it.  He earned it.]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Don]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-09T04:53:16Z</updated>
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